When Will Cardiologists DROP The Cholesterol NONSENSE And Get To The REAL Causes Of Coronary Heart Disease?
When?
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the "real" cause is a very big business- and when research studies are funded by "big business" doctors are told what to think.
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When statin making drug companies stop paying them.
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they don't want to scare people with the real reasons like blocked arteries and heredateries;and all of the main causes.they always say cholesterol because they run out of things to say'so they throw that in there...by now with all the technology' you'd think they would almost come up with some kinds of pills or shots to make it where so many don't have to die daily 'weekly and all other times,,,,,LOL
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And the real causes ARE?? We're waiting.....
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They would never , because the real culprit is badly imbalanced cholesterol only. The devil does not run away if you just shut your eyes !
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ANTHONY COLPO IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. In the AFCAPS/TexCAPS trial, lovastatin reduced CHD mortality by a staistically insignificant twenty-seven percent. BUT overall mortality was increased by four percent. 3304 were in the drug group and 3301 in the treatment group. 11 CHD deaths drug group 15 CHD deaths control group. realtive Risk for CHD Mortality -27% Realtive risk for total mortality +3.9% total deaths 80 drug group 77 control group STATINS DO NOT INCREASE SURVIVAL RATE IN WOMEN AT ALL STATINS DO NOT INCREASE SURVIVAL RATE IN ELDERLY AT ALL STATINS DO NOT INCREASE SURVIVAL RATE IN MEN FREE OF EXISTING CORONARY HEART DISEASE. ANY ACTION STATINS HAVE IN SELECT PATIENTS WITH CORONARY HERAT DISEASE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR LDL REDUCTION. AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THEIR INFLAMATION REDUCTION, ANTI CLOTTING ,ANTI SPASM PROPERTIES. PERHAPS YOU did not read this carefully enough. http://www.lowcarbmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162 RESEARCHERS ADSMITTED AFTER EXAMINING ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT LDL REDUCTION IS UNFOUNDED. YOU WOULD GET DESTROYED BY COLPO IN ANY TYPE OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACTS ON CHOLESTEROL.
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If cholesterol isn't the "real" cause, what is? Cholesterol is a big part of what causes Coronary Artery Disease. No, it isn't all of it. Some other causes are cigarettes, diabetes, high blood pressure and genetics. Which one should we focus on?
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The ABSURDITY OF the Cholesterol Theory Using data from Cholesterol Theory proponents we would have to believe: *Cholesterol causes coronary heart disease in men BUT NOT WOMEN *Cholesterol causes coronary herat disease in Americans BUT NOT Canadiand and PROTECTS aginst coronary heart disease in RUSSIANS *Cholesterol causes coronary heart disease if you are between the ages 31 and 47 BUT STOPS CAUSING CORONARY HEART DISEASE ONCE YOU TURN 48 AS FAR AS THE STATIN CLINICAL TRIALS the ones that COUNT CLINICAL NOT observational, READ THIS FROM THE BRILLIANT DR. UFFE RAVNSKOV, Anthony Colpo's MENTOR Summing up "In their reports, the directors of these trials cited LDL cholesterol as an important risk factor in coronary heart disease. But what these trials actually provide , in spite of the glowing reports they received in the press, is strong evidence that cholesterol levels do not matter. First, the statins were almost as effective for women as they were for men. Indeed, in the the CARE trial the effect was most pronounceds for the female sex although almost all studies have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for women. Second, the elderly were protected just as much as younger individuals. although all studies have shown that high cholesterol is only a weak risk factor , if any at all. for men older than fifty. Third, the number of strokes was reduced after statin treatment , although all studies have shown that high cholesterol is a weak risk factor for stroke if at all. Fourth, patients who has suffered a heart attack were protected even though most studies have shown that high cholesterol is a weak risk factor , if any at all , for those who have already had a heart attack." As far as the Furthermore, THE STATINS PROTECTED AGAINST CORONARY HEART DISEASE WHETHER THE PATIENTS CHOLESTEROL WAS HIGH OR LOW, even though most studies have shown that normal or low cholesterol is not a risk factor for coronary disease. MOST IMPORTANT- THERE WAS NO ASSOCIATION BETWEEN THE DEGREE OF CHOLESTEROL LOWERING AND THE OUTCOME. THE RISK OF HAVING A HEART ATTACK WAS REDUCED BY THE SAME DEGREE WHETHER THE CHOLESTEROL LEVEL WAS LOWERED BY A LARGE AMOUNT OR SMALL AMOUNT. As far as the AFCAPS/TexCAPS trial, which included healthy individuals with normal cholesterol levels, the chance of NOT dying from a heart attack over four to six years for a patient with CHD and high cholesterol is about 92 percent without treatment, and increases to 95 percent with statin treatment. HARDLY IMPRESSIVE. DRUG COMPANIES AND DOCTORS ALWAYS LOOK AT AND CITE "RELATIVE RISK REDUCTION" . DRUG COMPANIES USE "RELATIVE RISK REDUCTION" FOR THEIR ADS Take a look at ABSOLUTE RISK REDUCTION AND YOU WILL FIND that death from a heart attack was prevented in only a SMALL PERCENTAGE OF TREATED INDIVIDUALS. These figures are highest in the trials that included patients WITH CHD whereas it was aTRIVIAL 0.12 percent in the AFCAPS/TexCAPS trial. *STATINS DO NOT HELP THE ELDERLY OR WOMEN AT ALL.-even when they have coronary heart disease. *STATINS ONLY HELP MIDDLE AGED MEN WITH EXISTING CORONARY HEART DISEASE AND DIABETICS. *ANY BENEFICIAL EFFECTS SEEN IN THIS SMALL PERCENTAGE OF SELECT INDIVIDUALS IS INDEPENDENT OF LDL LOWERING. THE RESERACHERS CAME OUT AND ADMITTED THIS IN OCT 2006 http://www.lowcarbmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162 YOU HAVE BEEN DISMANTLED FOOL.
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You STUPID STUPID nurse Atherosclerotic plaques are NOT wads of cholesterol FOOL They are VERY VERY HARD FIBEROUS SCAR TISSUE MAINLY 90 PERCENT. Cholesterol ONLY makes up 6-10% FOOL ATHEROSCLEROTIC PLAQUES ARE MAINLY FIBEROUS SCAR TISSUE SMOOTH MUSCLE CELLS RESEMBLES A SCAB SEE HERE FIRST HAND FOOL http://www.youtube.com type in KIRKSEY The media's AND DRUG COMPANIES representation of human atherosclerosis is COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS. BILLIONS ARE MADE OFF OF THIS SCAM. It's UNBELIEVEABLE HOW STUPID the medical personnel is as evidence the nurse above. SCARY THOUGHT TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE TREATING US. ANTHONY COLPO'S KNOWLEDGE IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO YOU
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To answer your question, hopefully never. It's amazing how a few people (or maybe just one with different id's) think that 90% of the worlds' doctors are wrong. When someone argues against the "anti-cholesterol" lobby, they're met with curses and insults. (which gets you violated) If you truly want to change peoples' minds, that doesn't work. Reasoned discussions do much more than calling people stupid or putrid #$#~.
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